I suffer from all of these things very strongly and I put a large percentage of this down to being trapped inside the J.W's for family reasons.
Isambard Crater
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Anxiety, OCD, Hoarding, and the JWs
by Spiral ini'm noticing what seems to be a higher incidence of the above among the local jws than in the "general" (read: worldly) population.
i don't say this lightly, my wanderings around the fringes of jw society locally is revealing an alarming trend here.
the poverty doesn't help (there are good jobs, but you need a degree or qualifications to get one).. anyone else see this?
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Prophecy question as hysteria sets in
by Isambard Crater ina load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.
i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..
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Isambard Crater
Returning to my OP, though, let's just imagine for a moment that we are living in the last of the Last Days, the KOTN has been established as Russia, the KOTS is undoubtedly U.K+U.S. in our minds, and Russia's recent moves are noteworthy.
There's still a glaring problem, if my understanding is correct.
I always thought J.W's taught that Jehovah would put it into the governments' minds to attack ALL religion, with the J.W's refusing to give up, hence getting attacked, provoking Jehovah's wrath.
All this talk of Russian opposition signalling the end is nigh is an attack on the J.W's FIRST, which is the other way round to what they've always taught.
Like one of your replies said, it's just wishful thinking, clutching at straws, I guess.
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Prophecy question as hysteria sets in
by Isambard Crater ina load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.
i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..
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Isambard Crater
A load of J.W's in my family and the Congregation I attend as a PIMO have been saying the end is VERY close because the Anglo American World Superpower is clearly still the King Of The South, and Russia is now clearly King Of The North due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.
I've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this King of North + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the U.N and then the attack on J.W's who will be left standing. I mean, I thought Jehovah was going to put it into the U.N's minds to ban or attack all other religions, THEN the attack on J.W's, but Witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because Russia has banned them.
It's sad, as some Dubs I know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'.
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Today's Watchtower did have some nice bits in it but hang on...
by Isambard Crater in...in the section where it said unselfishly loving people don't draw attention to themselves but do things anonymously, the thought came to me about why at the conventions do they announce "and now a talk from brother x who has served as an elder and pioneer for twenty years"?
some say it's encouraging but i have never felt that way..
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Isambard Crater
...in the section where it said unselfishly loving people don't draw attention to themselves but do things anonymously, the thought came to me about why at the conventions do they announce "and now a talk from Brother X who has served as an elder and pioneer for twenty years"? Some say it's encouraging but I have never felt that way.
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If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?
by Isambard Crater inthe jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..
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Isambard Crater
The JW lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok.
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Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?
by UnshackleTheChains ini noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.
when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.
but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.
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Isambard Crater
Lots of J.W's from other Congregations have visited our Hall in the past month and plenty of them had beards, which surprised me. No idea if they therefore have had their privileges taken away, though. -
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Angry the BBC covered J.W. child abuse on the national TV news at 1pm but not 6pm or 10pm
by Isambard Crater indid the j.w lawyers gag the bbc or something?
not even newsnight covered it.
it was given 3 minutes every hour on the 24-hour bbc news channel though i guess..
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Isambard Crater
True, but I perceive that many more people watch the 6pm and 10pm news than the 1pm when many are at work.
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Angry the BBC covered J.W. child abuse on the national TV news at 1pm but not 6pm or 10pm
by Isambard Crater indid the j.w lawyers gag the bbc or something?
not even newsnight covered it.
it was given 3 minutes every hour on the 24-hour bbc news channel though i guess..
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Isambard Crater
Did the J.W lawyers gag the BBC or something? Not even Newsnight covered it. It was given 3 minutes every hour on the 24-hour BBC news channel though I guess.
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My unbelieving husband was offended by the WatchTower just studied
by Isambard Crater init was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..
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Isambard Crater
It was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be J.W's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from Jehovah towards his Witnesses.
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If Elders and Ministerial Servants did what Michael Fallon has done, few would remain
by Isambard Crater inover the years i have seen plenty of elders and ministerial servants touch other j.w's knees, thighs, give very long and intimate hugs, blah, blah, blah.
i know of other sisters who have felt really uncomfortable with such behaviour, but the brothers have just explained that they're being loving as caring christian friends, so they get away with it.
it angers me that no j.w's will speak out about historic or ongoing inappropriate touching for fear of being disfellowshipped or losing the hope of paradise..
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Isambard Crater
I agree fully - Fallon should not have gone. But what I wanted to highlight is that lots of J.W's will soon be pointing fingers at and criticising M.P's, not realising that such actions go on in Kingdom Halls too.